PINGDOM
aka
Rays@Bright.net 

We have been on eBay since
December of 1996,
and have been selling
from this id since 1998.

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Our ebay buying and selling interests include:

• garden seeds - flowers and vegetables,

• pottery and glass,

• postcards, and

• misc antiques and collectibles.

We also enjoy using eBay
to buy and sell Ping balls
and Nike Mojo golf balls on eBay.

 

Here is a copy of Karsten's (Ping's)  proshop ad from the 1996 catalog. Click it for a larger image

 

 

 

Click here  for the beginning of a collectors' web site:

www.pingballs.com

If you have any information you wish to to contribute, please email me.

 

Here are some pictures of interesting Ping golf balls manufactured by the Karsten Company

Click on the picture for a larger image

 

Ping Eye Yellow and Red Swirl Prototype

Ping Eye 2 Solid Ping golf ball with Pink Floyd logo

Ping Eye Dark Blue and Gold

Brinkman Froemming Umpire School logo on Ping baseball

Ping Eye Red and White Swirl Prototype

Ping Eye Dark Blue and Medium Blue

Ping Eye Plum and Pink

Ping Eye Camo Swirl Prototype

Ping Eye Dark Purple and Yellow with Gold Lettering

The Long Story
of My Last Negative Feedback

If you want GDW's real ID, you'll have find it the legal way and read it in my feedback. I said in the  feedback that he refused to pay for the item, but  I should have instead said that he canceled the transaction. Here are all the emails, in case you are interested in the whole story.

On 1/8/2006, I was still running a holiday special where you could get three dozen brand new all white Nike Mojos for $49 with Free shipping in the United States.  The normal price for these golf balls online or in golf pro shops is around $20 per dozen, so you can see this was a great deal for eBayers.  In fact, I sold over 150 dozen Mojos for this holiday special.
 
On that day, 1/8/2006, the buyer, who we'll call GDW, clicked Buy It Now and sent a Paypal payment of $49 with a shipping address in the United Kingdom.

I sent him the following email on 1/8:
Hello:
These golf balls are not shipped free to any address outside of the United States.  My ad states that International bidders should email for a shipping quote, but I think I should have placed it closer to the top of the ad, and for that I aplogize.  I have already amended my current ad.
 
Actual shipping for three dozen golf balls to UK is $35.60 for airmail (4-10 days), and $25.10 for surface mail.  If you still want these golf balls, I can refund your payment and reinvoice you.  If you do not wish to complete this transaction, I will refund your money and file for a refund of my fees from eBay.  Please let me know which you prefer.  Thank you.

• 1/8 no response from him

• 1/9 no response from him

• Since I wasn't getting a response, on 1/10, I refunded his Paypal payment to him. 

On 1/10/2006 I received the following email from GDW:
I wish to cancel this transaction. I had paid your fee to then be refunded and charged more than the fair carriage price for shipping to the uk. Could you cancel this please
regards

on 1/10/2006 I emailed back:
The amount for shipping is EXACTLY what the US postage cost is to send it.  In fact, I subtracted $5.00 so the balls would be wholesale price to make it more reasonable for you.
That ad cost me $3.00 nonrefundable to relist, and I will have to file for  my final value fee refund in a week.  Don't you DARE accuse me of trying to overcharge you for postage.  Good day, and please make sure you review the UK postage chart for a 4 pound 14 oz package.
[I then included a chart of all USPS shipping charges and options for that weight]

• Since he asked me to cancel the transaction, I relisted the golf balls, and they sold to someone else within a few hours.

• On 1/14/2006, I received another paypal payment from GDW. 

• I again refunded his payment and I responded with the following email:

Hi XXXXXXX,
As you can see from this listing, I've relisted those golf balls and sold them already.

In fact, I didn't relist again, as I have none left to sell.  Once I sold this last six dozen, I canceled the 3 dozen ad, and at this time, I am done with selling Mojo dozens.   I am going to refund this payment, and I will be the first to extend the olive branch by filling out my refund as a "mutual agreement to cancel" so that you don't get a nonpay strike against you and I will still get my fees back.
 
I do agree with you that the  shipping costs to UK for packages over 4 pounds is too expensive, and I would have gladly canceled the transaction in the first place.   I was very angry, however,  when you accused me of trying to cheat you on the shipping costs.  I am not dishonest and you had to no right to imply that I was.  I realize there a  lot of crooks on eBay, but remember that there are  a lot of us are honest folks who still enjoy eBay for its sense of community.

Thanks anyway, for offering to pay for the transaction. Hopefully you'll be able to find a comparable deal on new golf balls from some other seller.

At that time, I filed for my FVF fees back, and he. in turn,  responded that he intended to pay for the item, thus causing my FVF refund to be denied.
 
So, on 1/15/2006, I receive the following email from him:

what are you playing at, i have paid you the price for the balls and your shipping, now you have refunded and clearly paypal think there is something wrong with the way you are trading as they have placed a hold on the money. what is going on?????
 
I don't know what was going on with his Paypal acct - you will have to look at his feedback and
determine for yourself that he was having other problems. 

So on 1/15 I responded to his email:
I don't know, but since you didn't agree to not complete the transaction, you just screwed me out of my final value fees.  First you canceled the transaction, so I resold the product, then you paid me for something that I had already sold to someone else, and now you told them that you want to pay for something that I told you I already sold, thus screwing me out of any refund I could have gotten from the fact that you ruined my original listing. 
So my question is, what's going on with you?  All you are doing is costing me money and grief.  I have great feedback and I am an honest ebayer.  Why are you doing this to me?
 
On 1/15 I recieved this email:
Your attitude is disgusting, you do not communicate with any sense of understanding,
you have not communicated to me that you had sold the balls again, you had no right to
do this as ebay allows 10 days for payment to be received, you informed me that the
postage amount was incorrect and i sent yoiu payment to take this into consideration.
I do not care if you have lost your fees that is your problem for  selling the item twice,
if you do not have the item then it may be best to let ebay resolve this matter as you are a very rude person to talk to
regards

I responded with this email on 1/15:
I am letting ebay resolve it.  I have already turned in the complaint.  You are a very rude person.  I sent you nice emails to find out what was going on, and you ignored each of them with no response.
 
Just so you know what is going on with my complaint, here is the entire copy of what I just sent:  [rest of the complaint was pretty much copies of the same emails you have read so far]

• So, on 1/20 GDW opens a dispute for the case. 

•  Remember, he has all of his money refunded, and I have asked him to leave me alone.

• Here is the  verbatim copy of the dispute with only the ID changed.  

• Notice, below,  that GDW is lying about "Other" as a payment method. 

• He can't figure out a way to explain to ebay why he deserves a refund of $0.