I'm thinkin' Gabriel will catch on when...

Ok, here is the new stuff. First of all, Gabriel is hiding under a new alias. all$ea$on$con$igment$hop$$  How special...

After posting the email just above in blue ink... the one with all the capitol letters, Loy's literary diarrhea did not stop with that prize-winning display of diction and grammar. I actually think that I might even have a bit of writing ability after reading his stuff, by way. (arf) I'm actually wondering if someone should tell him that there is a "Caps Lock" key he is unaware of over there on the left side of his keyboard. Tangent... sorry.  Anyway, he continued to demonstrate to me how he has contaminated the intelligence pool with his complete and utter ignorance. However, I grew weary of trying to make him understand that he was the one who was out to lunch on this one and gave up entering the information here on this page. Up until now...

Pretty close to the timeframe of his last email to me, I sent this to him.

Mr Loy...
Here is the web site for you to be entertained.
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=urleebird

Here's a helpful hint for your future auctions. Do not put ANY reference to a % (percentage) when you refer to knives or razors. Your interpretation is different than the rest of the United States, and you are not accurate. Try it this way...

Give the best pictures you can
Let the bidders know all of the good qualities of the razor
List any damage (for instance ~ Say something like, "The blades have active rust and some pitting. They also look like they are not as wide as they are supposed to be. They are 1/2 inch wide or less.")
Encourage questions.
Your packing is great and you don't need to change it at all! But, you don't need registered or certified mail. Delivery confirmation is plenty along with insurance if the buyer pays for it.

I'm going to try this one more time... I only have one single razor on my site that could be considered 85% Mint. That's this one:
(The link that was here is no longer around. The razor sold but it was similar in quality to this one... http://www.billysblades.com/CofC.Images/4432.h28.jpg ) All of the rest of them are not as good.

good luck to you...

I gave one more reference to a razor and also sent him a picture of the 85% MINT razor I referred to on this very page. He sends this back.

THANKS BILLY FOR MAKING ME A STAR LOVE YOUR LITTLE ABOUT ME PAGE PS YOUR STILL NOT GETTING THE REST OF YOUR MONEY BACK UNTIL I GET MY 3rd RAZOR BACK CHECK YOUR POST OFFICE AGAIN
 

I also got this one right after that in a separate email...

BECAREFUL WITH THE LIES YOU SPREAD AND ALSO BECAREFUL WHAN YOU TRY TO REMOVE THE HANDLES FROM YOUR NEXT RAZOR MAKE SURE YOU DONT BREAK LIKE YOU DID MINE

Then he made his own about ME page. This is what it said...

URLEEBIRD meaning UR-LIE- BIRD

CROOKED COP CROOKED COP WHAT YOU GOING TO DO WHAT GOING TO DO . WHEN THEY BUST YOU . DONT BE CAUGHT TAKING ANY BRIBES . DONT BE CAUGHT TELLING ANY LIES . DONT GET CAUGHT HANGING OUT WITH THUGS. CROOKED COP CROOKED COP WHAT YOU GOING TO DO WHAN THEY BUST YOU.

NOW THE TRUTH I SOLD THIS PERSON 3 RAZORS FOR ABOUT $ 50 AND HE HAD THEM FOR ABOUT A WEEK . THEN FOR SOME REASON HE WANTS HIS MONEY BACK . I TOLD HIM NO PROBLEM RETURN ALL 3 RAZORS FOR FULL REFUND . BUT WHEN I GOT THE PACKAGE OF RAZOR .THERE WAS A WHOLE IN IT ONE WAS MISSING AND ONE WAS BROKEN . ALSO THERE WAS NO FRAGILE STICKER ON THE PACKAGE . ME BEING A GOOD PERSON THAT I AM I STILL GAVE HIM $35 BACK I SHIP EVERY THING OUT WITH AT LEAST ONE 3 CENT FRAGILE STICKER ON IT. I TOOK THE BROKEN HANDLE RAZOR TO A FRIEND OF MINE . THIS FRIEND WAS AN EMPLOYEE OF BOB CARGILL IN THE EARLY 80,s AND HE TOLD ME THE HANDLES HAD BEEN BROKEN FROM SOME PERSON TRY TO REMOVE THEM AND NOT BY THE POST OFFICE . THE PIN HAD HAMMER MARKS ON THE BROKEN SIDE OF RAZOR . NOW COLLECTERS WE ALL KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING WITH MY NICE EAGLE HANDLE RAZOR JUST PUT ONE HIS NICE BLADES IN IT AND NOW YOU CAN SELL IT TO SOME PURE UNKNOWING COLLECTER FOR 3 TIMES WHAT HE PAID ME OR $150 . BUT I GUESS THAT 75 YEAR OLD PIN DID NOT WANT TO COME OUT AND IT BROKE THE HANDLE HIM HAMMERING ON IT . SO NOW ITS WORTH NOTHING THEN HE THANKS I GOT TO GET MY MONEY BACK SO HE SHIPS IT BACK IN A BAG NOT THE BOX I SHIPPED IT TO HIM IN WITH NO FRAGILE STICKERS GET THE PICTURE WHO THE CROOK NOW ( UR-LIE-BIRD ) SWITCHING BLADES AND HANDLES ON RAZORS TO GET MORE MONEY . THAT NOT REPAIRING . THEM THAT NOT RESTORING THEM . THATS NOT 75% THATS NOT 80% THATS NOT 95% THATS WHAT I CALL 100% CROOK YOURS TRULY THE LAST BUFFALO HUNTER

Terrific! Now I have a bonafide Buffalo Hunter on my trail. What do you do with someone like this? In person, you could just punch them out if they continue to bother you. But what... when you are 1,500 miles away? Lordy lordy lordy... Just for the record, let me categorically deny that I ever touched the pins on his MINTY razor.  As much as I have a general distaste for attorneys, Loy is a perfect example of why they are needed, at least in libel cases, anyway. For those who think I don't know razors, you can stop by my blog where I give a bit of free information on them.

http://razortips.blogspot.com/

As a matter of fact, even his current auctions for decent, but overpriced knives, he gives this as part of every description:

I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO SELL OR NOT TO SELL TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE WON AUCTION FROM ME AND NOT PAID OR HAVE GIVEN ME UNDESERVING NEGATIVE FEEDBACK .BAND FROM BIDDING ON MY AUCTION URLEEBIRD FOR WANTING A FULL REFUND AFTER BREAKING THE HANDLE ON A RAZOR AND TRYING TO RETURN IT.

Crap! Now I'm actually "BAND" from bidding on his auctions. I'm beginning to think I'm the one who is stupid for even trying to clarify anything with Gabriel T. For some reason, I keep expecting the comedian, Bill Engvall, to show up at my front door to say, "Here's your sign." to indicate a certain level of stupidity on the part of the recipient... me. Then again, I think that maybe all the signs are over at Loy's house. I'm thoroughly convinced that if Loy is capable of jogging, he could qualify to enter all of the Special Olympic events across the country. (The only one who won't get that literary dart is Loy)

Here we go... I made one last attempt with Gabriel Einstein Loy. (Wait Bill. Don't do it, and, here's your sign.) My patience with him had worn really thin at this juncture of our strained and fragile friendship. It read this way:

Loy...

Please tell me that this is all an act and that you are really not this friggin stupid!  You joke, right? Somebody should have told you not to get into a battle of wits when you are unarmed. You are also pretty brave on that keyboard of yours so far away. I think not that you would have the nerve to call me a crooked cop to my face.  I'd really like to give you the opportunity to do it, though. I am pretty much done with you. You are lucky you sent some money back, Mr. nice guy that you are. I gave it to the neighbor kid to wax my truck.

Think about this, Loy. Look at my feedbacks. $1,000 worth of razors alone in the past few months. Why in the world do you think I would go through all this for $50 lunch money?  Do you actually think that I need the money, or need to scam some little insignificant idiot in Chicago? Have someone explain all this to you. Tell them to talk real slow.

Since you are asking friends for advice on the razors, maybe you could also get one who understands English to translate all my past messages to you since you don't seem to be able to figure them out on your own.

 Here are a few facts for you. Concentrate real hard, you might be able to understand... get help if you have to

• I did NOT alter any one of the razors you sent.
• I did NOT hammer anything on any one of the razors you sent
• I did NOT break any one of the razors you sent
• I did  NOT try to take the handles of the eagle off to put them on another blade

I don't care what your friend said about me being the one who hammered the pins. He is mistaken, and, I am sure, misguided by you.  In fact, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out it was you who took a hammer to the eagle if it is really broken. I don't believe that the eagle is broken, by the way. I think you are lying. You got them back the same way I got them.  They were well protected in razor boxes and in a bubble envelope. I have never had a razor broken by the post office yet. AND, they don't pay attention to "Fragile" stickers anyway. I'll bet you didn't tell this only friend you have the entire story, did you?  Please tell him to email me. Point him in the direction of my "about me" page. Send him to my web site. You wouldn't do that though, would you. You would be exposed as the snake droppings that you are.

You must remember, Loy, that one of the reasons I was sending those junk razors back to you is because they were badly re pinned. Do you remember me saying that? If not, it is written down in my emails to you. Find it. But I mainly sent them back because it is you who lied, not me!

Ask any one of your knife club members if they think any of your crappy razors are 85% mint.  They are not. You are dishonest and you have no integrity to admit that you are wrong. As a matter of fact, here are some examples of what 4 other people said about you in their correspondence with me.

• Thanks for confirming what I already suspected about Mr. Loy. I collect and often purchase and sell Cripple Creek / Bob Cargill knives through eBay auctions and have run across many of Mr. Loy's auctions. He has sold very few due to his extremely high reserves and I suspect over priced shipping costs... But his auction descriptions is what seemed to bother me the most. Kind of comes off as a know-it-all-want-to-be with not a whole lot going on upstairs. Anyway, thanks for your very cool website and some cheap entertainment while exposing this fraud!

•  What a pr**k! I think what angers me the most about these little t**ds, is that they lip you down with such horrible grammar. Down right insulting. The other thing is that they act pretty tuff when they aren't face to face with you. I'll bet it makes you want to put the "Crossbar Hotel Headlock" on him.

•  I'm sorry, but I was LMAO at this one. This guy is a piss-poor version of the French Taunter--Did he perhaps tell you that your mother smelt of elderberries? I'd expect cows to come flying across the parapets next!

• This guy is a complete and utter a**hole and deserves nothing less than national exposure. Maybe you should send some bikies around to pay him a social call but he is most likely too dim-witted to realize why someone is beating the crap out of him. Better still you could enroll him in a remedial literacy class, judging from his responses he needs all the assistance he can get. This sort of seller really pisses me off..

I continued the letter with the following...

It looks like you got all of the junk razors you have been selling from the same low-class collection. You might want to talk to whoever you got them from to find out how they all got so messed up and who didn't know what they were doing in their attempts to restore them. Here are some more facts about restoring a razor.

I will type real slow so you can understand:

• Pins on any razor are NOT removed by using a HAMMER.         ANY kind of hammer.

• I use an extremely sharp number #55 drill bit under magnification to remove pins. I am even able to salvage the washers at the pivot pin so I can use them again.

• Once the washer is free from the razor, a dental diamond burr under magnification is used to ensure there is no more mushrooming of the head. Then a modified 1/16 inch drift punch is used to push the pin out of the other side while the razor sits in a wooden cradle that supports the entire pivot area. Handles don't break doing it this way!!

 
So, Buffalo Chip... oh, I mean hunter. You have lost. Let it go. Leave your About Me page as it is, by the way.  I will modify mine pretty soon to include your page as it reads now. It is the best possible evidence I could possibly ask for to expose you for the illiterate twerp you are and who's elevator only goes to the basement. Take the two active brain cells you have control of and try to learn English. Refer to my picture when you talk 85% mint. It's on my about me page just under the crappy pictures of your crappy razors.

In addition to the four letters of support sent on my behalf up above in green ink, someone sent Loy this message:

Your a dumba**! I saw your comment about urleebird. I take it you do not know who you are knocking... Urleebird is a senior member of the leading straight razor shaving websites. He is known by hundreds of serious collectors. In addition, he is a famous knife maker in the US.

You are probably turning away quite a few bidders out of distaste from your comment about a respected individual in the straight razor scene.
As for me, I will never purchase from you...

Gabriel wrote back:

I DONT CARE A CROOK IS A CROOK AND I DONT NEED YOUR MONEY OR HIS . HE BOUGHT 3 RAZERS SENT BACK TWO AND ONE OF THOSE WAS BROKE . I NEVER SHIPPED THEM TO HIM THIS WAY AND IF HE HAD RETUNED ALL 3 HE WOULD GOT HIS FULL REFUND. PS IM POSTING THIS AND PLAN ON CONTACTING EBAY SMART GUY .

In return Mark wrote:

Post away... I know urleebird, I trust him alot more than you... Thanks for the vote of confidence, Mark. After not getting very good prices on his razors for a while, Gabriel said on one of his pages that he was getting out of the straight razor business. That was a good thing. It was a happy day for America.  

With that bit of additional information following the animated flying pigs on this page, we are jetting from the long-forgotten past and thrust into present day. I decided to come back and finish my eBay page up a bit after receiving the following emails that Loy sent through the eBay system just this past week... almost two years after I first got his crap all over my shoes from walking by his auction page. And I mean... ALL over my shoes. This was the first email.

BUY SOME FRAGILE STICKERS OR SHIP THEM BACK IN THE BOX YOU GET THEM IN CROOK...$$$$$$$$

What? Are you kidding me? For a second or two, I was a little baffled by him coming out from under the rock in which he lives just to shout additional insults after nearly two years. That's two years, folks, not two weeks or two months, but two years. Irritated already because of politics in general these days, I was no longer willing to show restraint with Loy. Since I am retired now and I no longer have to be held to that higher standard of civility when dealing with the public, I gave him a short paragraph back. This time it was laced with a few well-placed profanities, just to let him know I was not going to tolerate his BS this time around. What was I thinking? I got this one back...

WHOs THE CROOK??? I GOT ONE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK YOU GOT 4 ????? NEXT TIME TRY CHANGING THE HANDLE WITH OUT BREAKING THEM.THAN SHIP THEM BACK IN THE BOX YOU GOT THEM IN OR USE FRAGILE STICKERS COP-SUCKER...  

Well... now I'm ticked. For every email he sent, I wrote one back with the increasing use of profanity and insults. I was sure to include references to his heritage and his momma. I did my flat out best to irritate him enough to leave me alone. It didn't do a bit of good. It was like talking to a weed in the middle of an asphalt parking lot. (Bill... here's your sign.)

I even tried to make three more points with him. Here they are:

At this point, I can see that nothing less than a 10 pound sledge hammer to the head as getting his attention. It is not worth it anymore to me, so the saga with the Chicago Buffalo Chip ends now. You win, Loy. You were right all along. It was a perfect razor. It was better than any one of the 1,000+ that I have. It had to be worth at least 3 or 4 hundred bucks. I can't believe I let it slip out of my fingers. Once I couldn't figure out a way to steal just the scales off of it, I had to make all of this up to get a whopping (that means 'big', Loy) $35 refund and then conspire with the post office to return a lost razor while I was at it. I should have known better than to mess with the Buffalo Chip... I mean Buffalo Hunter... sorry.

I do have to address where Loy might have gotten his inspiration to grace me with his intelligence once again with these last few e-mails. For whatever reason, he must be finding it necessary to baby-sit my feedback comments and he must have discovered a recent neutral feedback left by someone we'll call Wilber. I'll address Wilber in a minute. Gabriel, as usual, mistakenly assigned the neutral feedback to the negative pile because I had mentioned previously that I had received three negative feedback comments. I'll give him credit for being able to count to four, but maybe not for figuring out the neutral thing. The fourth negative actually came from atktdt, a seller with much more intelligence than Loy, but actually with less integrity. (Y'see, I actually think there is a possibility Loy thinks he is right. Which is why I spent so much time trying to make him understand.)

Anyway, atktdt had 11 razors up for auction. Here were the pics.

Here we have a guy with nearly 4,800 feedback comments, which means he's been doing this a while. After looking at these pics, I have a valid question, I think. How come someone who has this much activity on eBay hasn't learned to put up a decent photo of what he is selling? I'm thinkin' it may be on purpose. I digress.

I thought there was a possibility that 5, possibly 6, of the razors were worth bidding on. I won the lot for $36.77 and paid $8 for shipping. I made a bad assumption thinking that the guy would send them Priority Mail for that price. What does he do?........................   parcel post. Whoo boy! Everybody knows parcel post stinks and costs nearly as much as Priority Mail. The post office uses parcel post packages in tank obstacle courses at Fort Hood for a day or two before sending them on their way to their final destination. Consequently, the closest these razors ever came to an airplane was to the ones flying overhead at 40,000 feet. Without surprise, only four of the 11 razors made it just a tad tardy to California. I sent atktdt this message.

Howdy Kev**...

I received 4 razors in the mail on the 11th. I'm not sure exactly what happened to the other 7. The lower left corner of the bubble wrap envelope has been taped across an obvious 2 inch tear at the fold. If something like this happens in transit, the post office usually indicates that the package had been damaged and was repaired. That was not the case in this instance. I'm sure you sent all the razors because the weight of the package was listed between 1 and 2 pounds.

I am not too pleased on a couple of fronts. One, you used parcel post. You have been on ebay long enough to know that parcel post is the worst of the worst. It would only have been another 60 cents to send it Priority. You could have used a Priority box for free and saved what you paid for the envelope. I cannot believe that you think 11 loose razors flopping around in an envelope would make it to California without a mishap. Got any suggestions on a direction we can go?

His response... I should have purchased insurance and I was out of luck. Here we go. First of all, I think it's the responsibility of all sellers to get the package to where it is supposed to go, insurance or not. Second, all 11 razors were loose in a very large 11x14 bubble envelope. This was not the equivalent of me sending 3 razors to Loy in three individual razor boxes within a 6x9 padded envelope where movement is very limited. Because of the way the 11 razors were (not) packed, all insurance claims would have been denied by the post office. They get fussy that way. Additionally, the option to purchase insurance on atktdt's invoice page was inactive. It even said insurance was not offered. Silly me, for $8, I'm thinking that might have meant insurance was included as it is with many top notch eBay sellers. As comedian John Pinette would say, "Oh nay nay."

This package had to be similar in nature to that cloth trick that magicians perform with all kinds of plates and stuff on top of a table. When the magician pulls the tablecloth real quick, all the stuff on top stays right where it sat while the cloth winds up in the magicians hands. I can actually visualize nearly two pounds of loose razors jetting right out the end of the envelope and falling between  other obstacles as the postal carrier snatched it up to throw it on or off the truck. Mechanical engineers... correct, or no?

Anyway, I left a negative mostly because atktdt was such a, well, you know. In fact, if you research his feedback, you will see that he always leaves negative feedback as retaliation for his own errors. Seriously, go check his feedback patterns. Of course, he left one for me as well. He said, "I GET NEGATIVE BECAUSE PACKAGE IS DAMAGED. OFFERED INSURANCE BUT HE DIDN'T PAY."  What is it with these guys and their all-caps responses? I did it anyway, knowing he would leave the negative out of retaliation. As a side note, I actually believe that a seller should not be allowed to leave a negative feedback unless the item has not been paid for.  To me that is the buyer's only responsibility... to pay for the item won in a timely manner. I think if eBay changed to this method of feedback, then everyone would not be so fearful of leaving a negative to a seller who not only deserves it, but needs to be taken out to the woodshed as well. Too many unscrupulous sellers skate because there are way too many sheeple afraid to stand up to their principles. All except for Gabriel the Buffalo Chip Hunter, of course. He's my hero. 

Moving on to the last item of discussion, I direct your attention to that neutral feedback that Loy spotted. In that feedback, the person I will call Wilber said this on the feedback forum. "Razor dameged in mail from bad pckging. Seller sent rude e-mail but gave refund." Although Wilber deserves a page of his own, I will just shorten things up a bit.

He bid on an expensive damascus razor I had up for a recent auction. The original plastic scales that came with this very expensive damascus razor had gotten broken and were replaced by another set of plastic scales by a previous owner. The razor had been traded to me for other razors I had customized. I never wanted the damascus razor and had no interest in keeping it from the very beginning of my ownership. After finding enough time to do the work, I figured that it would be easier to sell if I put different scales on it. I had two sets of bone scales that I had pulled off TI razors in the past when I had replaced them with sets of my own custom scales. I installed one of the bone sets I had on the damascus razor and then put the thing on eBay. Wilber was high bidder.

I got this pic from Wilber when he said that the razor had broken in transit. He wanted to know if I knew of anyone he could send it to for repair. Duh... He also wanted to know if he should contact the US distributor, who he named, to see what could be done. I won't get into the specifics of that one, but the comment sent up a tiny alert flag to pay attention to further statements that I'm sure were about to be made.

I wish the break had not happened, but it did. I had folded 3/8 inch thick sponge foam around the razor like a burrito with open ends and closed the lid of the box that you see in the photo. It was under moderate resistance pressure when the lid was closed and I used the latch to secure it. I then used that thin stretchy plastic shipping wrap around the entire box to keep it from popping loose. Then, that razor box was wrapped in bubble wrap and was placed in a Priority Mail cardboard box. Everything was pretty snug. I felt confident that the razor would survive any trip the post office could put it through. There is no way a simple drop to the floor could have caused this kind of damage. I guess I should have bought a 3-cent FRAGILE sticker. (Bill, here's your sign.)

It had to have hit an unmovable object just right with some pretty good force to wind up looking like this. I did vary my wrapping pattern slightly from what I normally would do because of the display box that came with this razor. So, it could have been possible that the razor might have slid through the foam sleeve within the box after being jolted so hard and jammed into the end of the box with enough force to snap the somewhat brittle scales. Because of that, I had to take responsibility. It was on me, not the insurance company. I could have done a little better job packing it. To make a successful claim against them would be fraud in my book and it wasn't going to happen. Filing a false claim AND keeping the razor really really really really wasn't going to happen.

It did break on the fissure line I had mentioned in the auction. I had said, "The crack is small and it does not affect the integrity of the scales." I believed that statement to be true when I made it. As it turns out, it looks like I was wrong if the razor gets dropped or thrown on the ground from a 6-story building. (what do you want to bet that Loy is over in the corner somewhere turning himself into an amusement park just about now?) You de man, Loy.   

First thing out of Wilber's mouth was that he wanted to file the insurance claim, himself. That sent up a second tiny behavioral warning flag for me. Not a big one... just another tiny one. Most people would just ask to return the thing and see if they could get a refund because they wouldn't want to deal with the paperwork or the delays in getting their money back from the post office. At least that was the case with me when a genuine Marine dress sword was shipped to me and was broken by UPS. It took almost 7 months to get my money back. What I learned, however, was that they let you keep the broken article.  Having Wilber eagerly volunteering to go through this hassle was just a tad suspect for me. My accuracy for pegging certain behavior over the years has been pretty good for the most part. Still, I kept an open mind. 

I use stamps.com for my mailings, and my insurance when it is needed. This razor had been insured through stamps.com for $500. They are a middleman. I pay stamps to print out labels and they pay USPS the shipping fees. I'm sure they get some kind of discount for the volume, but I can't be sure. They also charge me a monthly fee for their services, which is why I tack on 35 cents to my shipping costs to cover part of it.  I've never filed an insurance claim with them yet, so I cannot comment on the process.

Although seeing the scales like this was a mess, it wasn't a monumental obstacle for me to rectify. It would have been no big deal to throw on another set of scales. I told Wilber that I would be happy to put another set of scales on the damascus blade for him, certainly at no cost... not even shipping. Or... I could refund his money... his choice. I felt that it was my responsibility to get the razor to him the way it looked in the auction, regardless of any mishandling by the post office. I sent him these pictures and a note saying that I would give him a choice of scales. I also said that I had other scales, but that I had to take photos of them first.

After sending those pics, I also sent this one of some standard scales that I thought would look ok on the damascus blade. To me, any of these choices would have been of equal or better value than the bone scales that I had put on the razor for the auction to begin with.

I also offered some white plastic scales, but did not have a pic. His answer? That nothing popped out at him and he still wanted to pursue filing his own claim against the insurance carrier. Y'see... now the hair is starting to rise on the back of my neck. Something just ain't right here.

He wound up calling me at home. I repeated the offers to replace the scales or give him a full refund. He wouldn't leave the "claim filing" thing alone. It was like a fly on that stuff you step in near Loy's auctions. No matter how many times you brush them away, they keep coming back. I finally told him that filing a claim was not going to be an option for him. That he either had to accept different scales or take the refund. So, OK. After making that statement I'm pretty sure what will happen next, but I'm still OK with it.  

He did send a very amicable and polite e-mail reply following the phone call in which he finally requested a refund. I had no problem with that. But, then he hit THE button that led to the rude e-mail he referred to on the feedback page. He sent this on Wednesday:

"I hope you receive the razor on Monday or Tuesday. It should have a been there on Monday. I haven't heard any thing from you about it, so I thought I would check. How long do you estimate it will take to supply my refund? Please e-mail me back and let me know what to expect. Thanks."

"I haven't heard... How long do you estimate it will take to supply my refund?" Naw! Now you did it. At this point, I had already received 7 e-mails and a phone call from him that came right in the middle of me watching Melinda Doolittle sing on American Idol. She's my favorite, by the way, and I missed the song. Here is the rude e-mail.

You had the tracking number, so why would you say you thought the razor arrived yesterday? No doubt, you checked... probably every hour. I am offended by the insinuation that I would hold back information from you to fuel paranoia. It also raises the hair on the back of my neck that you are right in the middle of wanting an immediate refund while you took nearly two weeks to make up you mind about sending the razor back. So much time went by that I cannot contact the other bidders now because ebay only leaves email addresses on the auction page for 14 days from the end of the auction. That means I will not only have to relist and pay those fees once more, but I will be hit with another $17 to $20 final value fee as was levied for this auction. I don't know if ebay will give me a credit yet for those charges. They have a different set of rules for their own money.

The razor got back to me today. When I got back home from meeting with my veteran's group at 5:30, it was here. It's almost 9:00 now. I'll have the refund in place within an hour. That means it will have taken you less than 4 hours to get your money back. That's a little more timely than the amount of time it was taking for you to try to figure a way to make money and keep the razor at the same time.

There will be no further need to contact me now that you will receive your money back.

Rude? Yeah, maybe a little. I can be crusty that way when I think someone deserves it. I don't like people who work the system without honor... and that was the personal opinion he left me with. Of course, after that e-mail, I received a lengthy one back in which he began telling me what time it was. He was almost as defensive as I am here on this page. It has actually been therapy for me so I don't kick the dog. He's pretty bright, so he probably thought he had his "Loy" in me as he offered this as part of his essay. (Mine is a book)

"Although the package was sent through the USPS it was not paid for directly through the USPS or insured by them as was the indication it would be by your auction. It is my legal right as owner of receiving goods damage in shipping to file a claim against the shipping company that caused the damage, and to have that claim processed by the agents of the USPS in my local branch office. Since you didn't pay for insurance with the USPS you denied me my rights to seek redress from them and to have the scales of the razor repaired by the craftsman of my choice. Weather I choose to have yourself or someone else repair my property is uniquely my decision and not yours. Having been given the only two options of having the razor repaired by you or receive a refund, and wanting to keep the razor, I waited until you sent pictures of the alternative scales to me on Wednesday April 4th. After considering  the options I decided none would be an adequate replacement for what I had purchased. I decided to send the razor back for a refund as quickly as I could."

Sounds like he could go to law school, no? I don't zactly member saying that the package was being insured by USPS, only that it would be insured. Nice spin though... Wilber can now qualify to run on a Democratic ticket with some of those other pillars of society we have in office right now. There are Republicans the same way, so don't bust my chops on that one. I was amazed to see that he had so many "rights". Wonder where I could get some of those. Sounds just like the inmates down at the jail. They seemed to have more rights than anybody else, too. When he said, "... none would be adequate..." I said to myself, Dang, now my feelings are hurt. I guess he... showed... me. Maybe he can get a hold of Gabriel and they can participate in one of those mutual circle things.

Oh... Oh... Oh...

Update on ole Wilber. He just left follow-up replies for that neutral feedback he initially left for me. In rebuttal to his first comment, I said, "I AM rude to some people. He wanted insurance money AND keep razor. No way, pal." To which he replied, "No INTEGRITY! I'm investigating if seller is guilty of insurance fraud. No HONOR." I can picture him rolling and kicking and pounding his fists on the floor as he is screaming those words. The thing is, he has it backwards. I remember babysitting guys in jail for the very thing he was wanting to do in this case. And that was to profit from an insurance claim. Insurance is to make things even so you don't lose any value on what was insured, not come out ahead of the game before you started out. He can investigate anything he wants. I'd kinda like to witness someone else tell him he is all wet besides just hearing it from me. I'd especially like him to hear it from a judge, if you know what I mean.

To re-cap that in a nutshell, it was like this. I mailed a package to Wilber that arrived with a damaged razor. It's possible it was my fault, therefore it was my responsibility to pay for it. I gave him a full refund in addition to his shipping costs back and I have not filed an insurance claim, myself, on the razor. So if Wilber gets all his money back, why then do you think he'd still be making a fuss because he had to return the broken razor? And how did I lose my integrity and my honor by doing what was right? It's that spin again. I'm beginning to think he's working for Pelosi. Maybe if he repeats it to himself every day for the next year he will begin to believe it himself.    

Of the three characters who don't like me much anymore here on eBay, I think I am personally bothered most by people like Wilber. I think he's a less than honorable manipulator and somewhat crafty. Crafty enough to fool a lot of folks. I'm thinkin' a lot of people around him have fallen prey to his methods. The guy coming in the second worst is atktdt. I just don't think he's a very nice person. My favorite bad guy is Loy. After a while, he grows on you, even though I feel like knocking his sorry butt out sometimes.

And me? Ahh... I'm just an opinionated old gas bubble.   

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